Dad arrested after daughter draws picture of gun

[CanuckInUSA 0]

Only in Canada ... can the Fabian Socialist Liberals believe it is perfectly acceptable for a teacher to call family services who proceed to call the police who proceed to harass a family at their home, searching it without a warrant and proceeding to arrest the father all because a little 4 year old girl drew a picture with her crayons at school of a man holding a gun. When the teacher asked the little girl who the man was the little girl responded "It's my daddy protecting us from the bad guys and the monsters".

http://www.calgarysun.com/2012/02/24/ont-dad-arrested-after-daughter-draws-picture-of-gun-reports

You would think in a rational society, if the teacher was really concerned about a picture a 4 year old drew, they would contact the parents directly to have an adult to adult discussion. Having the police raid the family home and arrest the father for a picture a 4 year old drew was over the top. But I guess I just have not spent enough time down at the "Big Red Tent" consuming their Red koolaid while they recited passages from their "Big Red Book" of Fabian Socialist lies to me.

Children be extra careful what you draw these days. If you draw something that goes against the indoctrination efforts of the Fabian Socialists, they will get the police to visit your home and arrest your parents.

Try not to worry about the things you have no control over

[ianmdrennan 2]

I'm lost - who exactly thinks this is good/ok?

I'm baffled how it happened in the first place, but I'm just as baffled by your rant since I don't see anyone saying this was a good thing. Seems like the response from the teacher was irrational - not sure who they must have told the cops to have them go and arrest the father like that.

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[Coreece 190]

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I'm lost - who exactly thinks this is good/ok?

Um, maybe those that allowed it to happen?

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I'm baffled how it happened in the first place, but I'm just as baffled by your rant since I don't see anyone saying this was a good thing.

I'm baffled by your bafflement...the rant is because this actually happened, not because somebody said it was a good thing.

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[ianmdrennan 2]

Ranting about it happening is one thing, but then he starts the thread with some tangent about liberal something or other.

Seemed like his rant was more about them, than the action (although the action was the catalyst). Just the way I read it though.

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[CanuckInUSA 0]

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I'm lost - who exactly thinks this is good/ok?

Go to anyone of Canada's Leftist media sources and show me a link to this story.

CBC
CTV
Global
Globe and Mail
Toronto Star

There are none. The main stream consensus media's silence on this story speaks volumes towards their beliefs that the gun control law (Bill C-68) that the Fabian Socialist Liberal Party of Canada passed giving the police the ability to search someone's home without a warrant is perfectly acceptable. Without Bill C-68 this never would have happened.

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[ianmdrennan 2]

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Go to anyone of Canada's Leftist media sources and show me a link to this story.

Why? 1, I have no idea who they would be. 2, if a media outlet is that blatantly biased, why could I consider them to be a credible newsworthy source, regardless of political affiliation?

Sounds like it's a similar problem to here in the US. It's a sad statement of affairs when the most "unbiased" news source is John Stewart......

edit: thanks for providing links in your edit, but my statements above still stand.

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[CanuckInUSA 0]

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Why? 1, I have no idea who they would be.

I mistakenly hit the submit button before I could provide you the proper URLs to our consensus main stream media (go back a few posts, some URLs are now there if you are curious).

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[RonD1120 58]

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I'm lost - who exactly thinks this is good/ok?

I'm baffled how it happened in the first place, but I'm just as baffled by your rant since I don't see anyone saying this was a good thing. Seems like the response from the teacher was irrational - not sure who they must have told the cops to have them go and arrest the father like that.

I don't intend to get out of line with this comment but, I don't understand why moderators spend more time judging than moderating.

If someone expresses themself through a post, assuming no name calling, and someone else makes sense of it, isn't that all that is necessary? The interaction has been completed.

The above is just my opinion based on three years of observation.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[ianmdrennan 2]

I don't moderate this forum. I'm entitled to an opinion too ;p

After 3 years here, I would expect you to realizeand understand this.....

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[pchapman 262]

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Go to anyone of Canada's Leftist media sources and show me a link to this story.
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There are none.

The Toronto Star (which is a bit leftie family & consumer oriented) does have the story, a longer version (http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/1136659--kitchener-dad-arrested-at-school-after-daughter-draws-picture-of-gun)from an affiliated paper in the city where it happened, while the Sun one seemed to be second hand through some news service. (But I haven't checked who owns who in the media.)

I haven't seen it in the other news media you mentioned yet. Maybe it is just that some media got the story from a smaller city first? I'd give it another day before deciding that 'the lefties think it is OK so it isn't a story'.

The more business oriented National Post does have a completely independent article at http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/02/24/joe-oconnor-arrest-over-daughters-gun-sketch-a-case-of-vigilance-and-too-much-zeal/

Sounds like a clear plastic toy gun from Walmart was involved, "that shoots soft plastic biodegradable BBs".

I'd like to see exactly who said what. The story makes it sound as if when the school called the cops, they stated that there was a gun that the kid had access to, as if it were a certainty. And we don't know what the kid said in addition to the drawing.

It isn't clear if the home was searched although
a) it sounds like the dad was pressured into voluntarily allowing the cops to search, and
b) I don't know how much power child services have to start poking around, other than to remove kids.

You don't have to be on the Right to think that this all sounds like a bit of over reaction. I found it interesting that they actually CHARGED him with the crime, handcuffed him at school and put him in a cruiser. That goes way beyond, "Hey we've got this report, sorry sir, the law says we have to investigate, could we talk to you?".

Whatever the details, you really did choose to rant on this one!

[CanuckInUSA 0]

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If someone expresses themself through a post, assuming no name calling, and someone else makes sense of it, isn't that all that is necessary? The interaction has been completed.

I am not sure what has me more outraged. The fact that I now live in a society where academics with a long history of Leftist activism believe they have the right to call the police and the result is having the parents of their students arrested when one of their pre-school students draws a picture the academic does not agree with, or outraged that I live in a society where the mainstream consensus media ignores such an event in their so called news stories.

Browse any of Canada's mainstream news source today and you will see plenty of stories about Bill C-30 (a proposed law that would give police extra powers to monitor internet activity). I do NOT agree with Bill C-30. I think if the police want to search someone's computer and/or internet server logs they first need to obtain a warrant (something Bill C-30 would allow them to by pass). But as bad as Bill C-30 is, Bill C-68 (the Liberals gun control laws) are just as bad as that law allows the police to enter anyone's home without a search warrant when some sort of firearms violation is suspected. You will hear plenty of chatter from the consensus mainstream media about how draconian Bill C-30 is, but not a peep from the same media concerning the lack of a need for a search warrant under Bill C-68.

If this outrage makes makes me a mindless ranter to the mods here at the DorkZone then so be it. Like anything that happens here really matters. I doubt very much in the vast majority of cases people ever change their opinions on things read and written here in the SC. Of course (it did not happen over night) my present views on firearms versus views I had before I came to the DorkZone can be directly attributed to certain debates I may have had here. I won't say who said it, or what they said. But one day one of the pro-gun people said something to me that made me take notice and my views on firearms were forever changed. LOL

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[RonD1120 58]

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I don't moderate this forum. I'm entitled to an opinion too ;p

After 3 years here, I would expect you to realizeand understand this.....

How would I know that? Your avatar says Moderator. That is a general title.

However, I believe you have answered my question.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[ianmdrennan 2]

Fair point. For future reference scroll to the bottom of the forum main page (i.e. speakers corner) and you'll see a list of moderators for that forum.

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?forum=35;

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[RonD1120 58]

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If someone expresses themself through a post, assuming no name calling, and someone else makes sense of it, isn't that all that is necessary? The interaction has been completed.

I am not sure what has me more outraged. The fact that I now live in a society where academics with a long history of Leftist activism believe they have the right to call the police and the result is having the parents of their students arrested when one of their pre-school students draws a picture the academic does not agree with, or outraged that I live in a society where the mainstream consensus media ignores such an event in their so called news stories.

Browse any of Canada's mainstream news source today and you will see plenty of stories about Bill C-30 (a proposed law that would give police extra powers to monitor internet activity). I do NOT agree with Bill C-30. I think if the police want to search someone's computer and/or internet server logs they first need to obtain a warrant (something Bill C-30 would allow them to by pass). But as bad as Bill C-30 is, Bill C-68 (the Liberals gun control laws) are just as bad as that law allows the police to enter anyone's home without a search warrant when some sort of firearms violation is suspected. You will hear plenty of chatter from the consensus mainstream media about how draconian Bill C-30 is, not not a peep from the same media concerning the lack of a need for a search warrant under Bill C-68.

If this outrage makes makes me a mindless ranter to the mods here at the DorkZone then so be it. Like anything that happens here really matters. I doubt very much in the vast majority of cases people ever change their opinions on things read and written here in the SC. Of course (it did not happen over night) my present views on firearms versus views I had before I came to the DorkZone can be directly attributed to certain debates I may have had here. I won't say who said it, or what they said. But one day one of the pro-gun people said something to me that made me take notice and my views on firearms were forever changed. LOL

What some of us do here is draw the imaginary line in the sand. Over time we know who will stand with us when the time comes. Hopefully, it won't happen any time soon.

I first encountered terrorism in the third grade. My dad taught me to shoot a rifle in the first grade. My grandpa taught me how to train dogs about that time as well. I became a Boy Scout at eleven. I entered the military after high school at eighteen.

My country is losing its moral compass. Our enemies are within our borders. I believe bad times are coming.

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Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

[Trafficdiver 8]

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Sounds like it's a similar problem to here in the US. It's a sad statement of affairs when the most "unbiased" news source is John Stewart......

John Stewart is unbiased. Hahahahahahahaha. Hold on...Hahahahahaha!

That's good.

[deltron80 0]

This sounds more like something a right wing fascist state would do...not a "socialist" state. People throw around this terminology without even knowing what it means. Relax, no one wants to take away your guns.

[CanuckInUSA 0]

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This sounds more like something a right wing fascist state would do...not a "socialist" state.

Sounds like you are a little misinformed since it was the "Liberal Party of Canada" who introduced and passed Bill C-68 and not some other political entity as you seem to want to allege. However I will be interested to hear your spin on how Liberals didn't actually pass this law and on how Liberals are not on record telling the world how they believe guns should only be in the possession of the police and the military and your spin on how the Liberals have not publicly stated that the whole idea behind their gun control laws was not to reduce crime but instead was to socially engineer the entire country into the Fabian Socialist ideology.

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"I came to Ottawa with the firm belief that the only people in this country who should have guns are police officers and soldiers." - Allan Rock April 12th, 1994
former Liberal Member of Parliament and former Minister of Justice

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"C-68 has little to do with gun control or crime control, but it is the first step necessary to begin the social re-engineering of Canada." - Sharon Carstairs January 26th, 1996
former Liberal Member of Parliament

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[dannydan 0]

don't come to America my brother! The NWO has been here a long long time and has been rearing its ugly head and fulfilling its prophecy for about 40yrs uP to this point. It's just a matter of time... Once heard this from some theologin professor on the am dial of the radio, "it will be easier to turn the United States of America into a third world country than trying to turn third world countries into democracies." That was in 1998! As far as your original post, your home country does not have (as far as i know) have a Bill of Rights... thats the first and biggest problem/diliema for the people of ANY nation... Being in a nation that does have the BoRs, it will ALWAYS be a fight to keep them as we've been watching the USA struggle over there last SAME 40yrs. As long as I honestly try to stay in line with the Trinity, then i could care less and really don't give a shiT about the worldly affairs of MAN! I conform to git by.... "KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK!!!!!" hang tight yall

[ianmdrennan 2]

Never said he was unbiased. Just *most*. That word in context takes on a whole new meaning than you inferred. To be fair, *most* is inaccurate if you're going too. *One of the more unbiased* is more accurate.

And yes, it's laughable - but in a sad way.

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[kelpdiver 2]

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John Stewart is unbiased. Hahahahahahahaha. Hold on...Hahahahahaha!

That's good.

John Stewart's bias is again idiots or idiotic action. Of either party.

When Obama asked Iran to return our drone, he went to town.

[Trafficdiver 8]

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John Stewart is unbiased. Hahahahahahahaha. Hold on...Hahahahahaha!

That's good.

John Stewart's bias is again idiots or idiotic action. Of either party.

When Obama asked Iran to return our drone, he went to town.

It's about 90% against conservatives and 10% against liberals.

He is left wing liberal, just because he every once and a while does not ignore liberal idiocy does not make him unbiased.

That being said yes, there are no unbiased reporters, Tim Russert was the closest and look where that got him.

Back on topic, Canada does not have a second amendment so this does not at all surprise me.

[tkhayes 140]

liberals? Canada has a conservative government. Alberta has an even MORE conservative government.

If you are blaming the 'overreaching government' for this, then I guess we know where the blame lies then......

[shropshire 0]

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This sounds more like something a right wing fascist state would do...not a "socialist" state. People throw around this terminology without even knowing what it means. Relax, no one wants to take away your guns.

... just your children

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liberals? Canada has a conservative government. Alberta has an even MORE conservative government.

If you are blaming the 'overreaching government' for this, then I guess we know where the blame lies then......

So the political spectrum in Canada goes from ultra far left to left of center?

Maybe they should sprinkle some moderate right in there to spice things up.

[tkhayes 140]

depends on you definition of 'center'. and besides - the original poster used the word "liberal", not me. And the parties in both jurisdictions are named "Conservative" in their title.....

just sayin', if you are going to call names, at least use the proper name, not some fictional entity you just made up to try and back you your feeble argument.